Robert Pickton, Serial Killer

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Bonnie M. Wells

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August 18, 2010:

Police Could Have Caught Pickton Years Earlier, Says Vancouver Deputy Chief's Report.

More Than A Dozen Women Might Have Been Saved, Investigation Concludes.

Police could have caught serial killer Robert Pickton years earlier and likely prevented the deaths of more than a dozen women, an internal Vancouver police investigation concludes.

The report has remained under wraps for more than a year because of court proceedings, publication bans, and now because the B.C. government wants time to study the findings.

But sources familiar with its contents say one of the report's main conclusions is that women's lives could have been saved.

The report, which runs to more than 400 pages, is likely to stir controversy because, while it finds considerable fault with the Vancouver police investigation, it also lays much of the blame on the RCMP for failing to nab Pickton sooner, sources say.

The report says Coquitlam RCMP took the lead in pursuing Pickton as a suspect as early as 1998, because he lived in their jurisdiction, where the murders were suspected to have occurred.

While some RCMP investigators took the case seriously at first, the detachment eventually let it languish for months despite frequent prodding from Vancouver detectives, the report says.

The review concludes that there was enough evidence pointing at Pickton as the prime suspect by mid-1999 for the RCMP to start pulling out all the stops in their investigation -- some 21/2 years before Pickton's eventual arrest in February 2002. {Canadian authorities have nothing on U.S. authorities. I began reporting on my suspect in 1993, and I've told every cop I've come to since then and that includes FBI, Sheriff Departments, City Police Departments, Private Investigators, and anyone else that would listen. I can only wonder how many have died since 1993, and how many more will die before someone actually does something.}

During that period, more than a dozen women, some of whose DNA was later found at Pickton's farm, vanished from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside.

Vancouver police Deputy Chief Doug LePard wrote the report, which is circulating within government and which Vancouver police officers have been allowed to read at police headquarters for training purposes.

LePard spent years reviewing the case, interviewed all the major players, and does not spare his own department, detailing extensive problems with the Vancouver Police Department's handling of the file, sources say.

A number of those problems were first documented by the Vancouver Sun in a 2001 report, which found that the department relied upon overworked police officers without the time or resources to do a thorough job. The investigation was also hampered by infighting, computer problems and inadequate training, police sources told the Sun at the time. {I suppose this will be the story when my suspect is finally apprehended. }

LePard confirms a number of those concerns, according to some of the same sources for the original Vancouver Sun report. But LePard's report notes that while the Vancouver police investigation was inadequate, it still identified Pickton as a suspect, only to have the RCMP drop the ball.

In one instance, Pickton agreed to a voluntary search of his property, but the RCMP never followed up on that offer, the report says.

The Vancouver police have been seething for years that they have borne the brunt of criticism for the case, while the RCMP took credit for finally arresting Pickton.

Former Vancouver police chief Jamie Graham, who assigned LePard to do the review, told the Vancouver Sun in 2002 that the attacks on the Vancouver police were "scandalous" and inaccurate. At the time, the department was incensed by an NBC Dateline report, which suggested Vancouver police had the name of the prime suspect all along, and did nothing with it until the Mounties rode in to save the day. {This web site stands as evidence that police have had the name, address and everything else they ever needed on my suspect. And they have had it since 1993.}

Graham, who is now chief of the Victoria Police Department, declined to comment on the contents of LePard's report yesterday.

But sources say the report sets the record straight by showing that the RCMP were leading the pursuit of Pickton from the outset and let him get away. The report says police never fully committed to the theory that a serial killer was at work, and that that undermined requests for more resources, sources say. {And herein lies the problem in our cases too. For some, unknown reason law enforcement would prefer that our people (obviously in Canada too) would believe that they have a dozen or more killers roaming around with them, than one simple minded man! Why? I don't know why. I have analyzed their statements about not wanting to panic the public -- as if one lone man is somehow super human and supremely intelligent to the point that society in general doesn't have a chance of protecting themselves against him! Hell, even Ted Bundy wasn't this good. If the police would have listened to the 'women' who tried to tell them it was Bundy, they could have gotten him years before they did. Then again, perhaps that's it in a nutshell folks .... it's almost always women who become suspicious and start looking around for 'evidence.' Only problem is, when they find that 'evidence' it is invariably a man they have to report it to. Since 99.9 percent of the serial killers ever caught were men, it appears to me that this might just be a 'man vs. woman' thing. Perhaps we'd better start checking for masoginists within some of our law enforcement.

Those findings, combined with the recent revelation that DNA evidence linking Pickton to two of the missing women remained in an RCMP storage locker for seven years before it was tested, are likely to fuel calls for a public inquiry into the police investigation.

Attorney General Mike de Jong has so far refused to commit to an inquiry, saying he needs time to read the internal Vancouver police and RCMP reviews. He is expected to take the matter to a provincial cabinet meeting next month.

Vancouver police, which have supported calls for a public inquiry, will not comment on the internal review until after the cabinet meeting, Const. Jana McGuinness said yesterday.

Former Vancouver police officer Kim Rossmo, who has written a book on criminal investigative failures, said LePard's report suggests the need for a "focused, productive inquiry."

Now teaching at Texas State University, Rossmo was provided a copy of LePard's report after signing a confidentiality agreement.

"Fascinating is the word," he said, when asked for his reaction to the report. "It is a significant autopsy into a failed criminal investigation, and there's much to be learned from it. {But will they learn? Will anyone ever learn? How many times must we go through the exact same thing? Time and time again serial killers have been caught after they have spent the past 20 years killing people - mostly women - and over and over again we hear the same lame excuses and they never learn. I say it's time for some 'retributive justice, not to mention restitution and compensation' for their slow learning capabilities! Bet that would teach them faster than anything else.}

"Despite my involvement with the case, and my continued connection through various people, I've learned a lot that I did not know before."

Rossmo said any politicians or journalists already dismissing calls for an inquiry should wait until they've seen the report. "I think it's absolutely essential that this be made public for the good of policing and for community safety," he said.

It's well known that Pickton first surfaced as a suspect in the summer of 1998. At the time, Wayne Leng, a friend of one of the missing women, had set up a toll-free line for information on her whereabouts. He received a tip on the line about Pickton and passed it along to Vancouver police. {I sat up an entire web site in order to 'help' law enforcement and our people. I sent out hundreds, if not thousands of emails to various branches of law enforcement across the entire eastern half of the United States. Most don't even acknowledge getting the information, and those that do respond never go anywhere with the information. }

Investigators followed up and interviewed the tipster, who told them a woman had spotted bags of bloody clothing and women's identification while cleaning Pickton's trailer.

The detectives also knew that Pickton had been accused of trying to murder a sex-trade worker at his farm in March 1997. Both he and the woman suffered serious injuries in the incident and all the charges against him were later stayed. (It was in the aftermath of this incident that police seized Pickton's boots and clothing, but the items were not tested until 2004 -- two years after his arrest. The tests detected the DNA of two of the missing women.)

The tip about the bloody clothing, along with the earlier attempted murder charge against Pickton, elevated him on the list of suspects. RCMP and Vancouver police investigators pursued Pickton throughout 1998 and into 1999, showing his picture to sex trade workers at Vancouver's Downtown Eastside and even putting him under surveillance.

By mid-1999, Vancouver police had developed a second source who told them about a woman who claimed to have seen a butchered body on Pickton's property. Police tracked down the woman and interviewed her in August 1999. The woman would later become a key witness at Pickton's trial, but at the time of the first police interviews, she denied seeing a body.

Up to this point, there had been talk of getting a wiretap or running an undercover operation. But the provincial unsolved homicide unit got involved, challenged the reliability of some of the source information, and the investigation apparently stalled at this point, sources say.

Coquitlam RCMP continued to take responsibility for pursuing Pickton as a suspect. But LePard's report says the RCMP went for months without doing anything on the case. The report also criticizes senior managers within the Vancouver police for failing to press the RCMP to do more.

It wasn't until February 2002 that a rookie RCMP constable gained access to the farm on a warrant looking for firearms, and found items belonging to the missing women. { How many times have I said, "some little rookie will get him some dark, rainy night." }

Pickton was eventually charged with murdering 27 women whose body parts or DNA was found on his farm. He was convicted on six counts on Dec. 9, 2007, one other charge was stayed, and the Crown this month stayed the remaining 20 charges after the Supreme Court of Canada rejected Pickton's bid for a new trial. The DNA of six other missing women was also found at the farm, but Pickton was never charged in those cases.

lkines@tc.canwest.com // The Victoria Times Colonist:

August 20, 2010:

Vancouver Police To Release Controversial Report Into Pickton Investigation Today.

VANCOUVER—Vancouver police plan to release a report later today that will examine why serial killer Robert Pickton wasn’t arrested sooner as women disappeared from the city’s Downtown Eastside.

The report has been ready for years but was kept secret while Pickton’s criminal case made its way through the courts.

The 450-page document was authored by Deputy Chief Doug LePard, who issued a public apology last month for the force’s failure to catch Pickton sooner and promised the report would also touch on the RCMP’s involvement in the investigation.

It’s also expected to heighten calls for a public inquiry as the provincial government weighs whether to hold hearings to further examine the role of police.

Several officers who were involved in the investigation have complained information wasn’t shared between Vancouver police and the RCMP and that officials in both forces were quick to dismiss evidence that a serial killer was preying on prostitutes. {Yes, I recall one retired cop telling me to 'keep my information close to the vest' when I tried to tell him what was going on. I didn't pay any more attention to him that time though than I ever had. He never did make much sense. How can you 'hide' your information and ever get anything done? The only thing I thought it would accomplish was to get me into hot water if my suspect was ever caught somewhere out of this area. It would allow local authorities an easy out by blaming me for withholding information. Not a chance, guys, not a chance.}

That criticism intensified earlier this month after a publication ban was lifted in Pickton’s criminal case and Canadians learned Pickton had been accused of trying to kill a prostitute on his Port Coquitlam farm in 1997, but the charges were stayed.

Apologies Don't Make Up For Mistakes,

Relatives Of Victims Say.

BY JUDITH LAVOIE, TIMESCOLONIST.COM

AUGUST 20, 2010

The sister-in-law of one of Robert Pickton's victims says the Vancouver Police Department and RCMP have the blood of 13 women on their hands.{ I'm afraid it's going to be considerably worse than that in this area!}

Lori-Ann Ellis, sister-in-law of Cara Ellis, said mistakes documented in the report by Deputy Chief Doug LePard are horrifying because of the missed opportunities to arrest Pickton. { Same story here. Time and time they have been told .... all to no avail.}

"Not a lot makes me angry now, but with this report, I found myself getting very, very angry," she said.

Cara Ellis's DNA was found on clothes Pickton was wearing after being stabbed by a woman he tried to kill in 1997, but the clothes were put in a storage locker and forgotten until he was arrested in 2002.

Ellis's DNA was also discovered in the freezer at the Port Coquitlam farm and her bones were found behind the slaughterhouse.

Compelling evidence pointed to Pickton by August 1999, but 13 more women went missing, with DNA from 11 later found on the farm.

"They could have stopped him murdering 13 more girls and they did nothing. Shame on them, absolutely shame on them," Ellis said.

Ellis, who wants an inquiry to put the investigation under the microscope, said she does not believe much has changed in police attitudes toward those living in neighborhoods such as the Downtown Eastside. {It doesn't even matter what 'neighborhood' my suspects victims come from! They can be hookers or school girls; housewives or sales clerks .... it just doesn't matter at all.}

When Ellis was reported as missing in 1997, no action was taken, she said.

"We need to make sure the horrible mistakes that took so many lives are never repeated," said Ellis, who is not mollified by police apologies. "Saying 'I'm sorry' is like putting a Band-Aid on a broken leg. It's a nice gesture, but it doesn't really help anything."

Brittney Frey, 18-year-old daughter of Pickton victim Marnie Frey — who went missing in 1997 — wonders whether her mom would still be alive if police had acted as soon as they had evidence pointing to Pickton. Marnie Frey was one of the six women Pickton was found guilty of murdering.

"It makes me really mad. There's a good chance my mom could still be alive if they'd just arrested him," Frey said. "I think the police were stupid." {Wonder if it's situations like this that caused President Obama to say the 'police were stupid' in a recent situation? }

Frey, who is going into Grade 12 at a Christian school in Campbell River and wants to study early childhood education, said she does not like the idea of having to hear more about the Pickton murders, but believes a public inquiry is needed.

"I want whatever makes those policemen that did a bad job be accountable," said Frey, who last saw her mother when she was about five.

Wayne Leng, a friend of Sarah deVries who set up a website dedicated to the missing women after deVries vanished in 1998, said friends and families will get little comfort from the VPD report.

"We knew there were colossal failures in VPD, but at least now it's in black and white — it's something tangible," said Leng, adding the failures were rooted in police attitudes to prostitutes and drug users. { Maybe not. Maybe it's just women in general. }

"If it had happened on the west side and not to these women, they would have pulled out every stop possible. It was easy to dismiss them." { This might be true in Canada, but as I said before, it doesn't seem to matter here.}

Many of the missing women were aboriginal. Stewart Phillip, president of the Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs, which has been calling for a full public inquiry for several years, said the report is a sordid tale of fundamental errors that allowed Pickton to carry on with his horrific killing spree.

"It's a combination of racism and classism. There's an attitude within police agencies that the poorest of the poor are not worthy of the full measure of justice."

jlavoie@tc.canwest.com // The Victoria Times Colonist

B.C. Government Will Review Pickton Investigation

By: ctvbc.ca

Housing and Social Development Minister Rich Coleman says the provincial cabinet will meet on Sept. 8 to hear recommendations on whether the Robert Pickton investigation should be examined through a formal judicial review or a public inquiry.

After Vancouver police and RCMP apologized Friday for their failure to catch Pickton before 2002, relatives and friends of his alleged victims said that sorry doesn't cut it and a public inquiry must be held.

Lilliane Beaudoin, whose sister Diane Rock vanished in late 2001, told CTV News she does not accept the apologies made Friday by the Vancouver Police Department and the RCMP.

"Getting their apologies for the mistakes that they made is not acceptable. Those mistakes should never have been made," Beaudoin said.

Rock was among 13 women who went missing after Vancouver police say they passed on compelling evidence to RCMP connecting Pickton to the disappearances of women from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside.

"Had they had everything set up as they said, such as the task force, the RCMP, the Vancouver Police Department, had they gotten all their information together they would have had this horrendous beast years and years ago, and a lot of lives would have been saved," Beaudoin said. {I've asked for a 'multi-jurisdictional task force' to be established in the cases that I have worked because I saw years ago that my suspect was jumping jurisdictions --- state and county lines --- in order to avoid detection. He must instinctively know that they won't even share information with each other, much less the public. He knows he's safe.}

That's why she is calling for a public inquiry into what went wrong in the police investigation into Pickton.

So is Wayne Leng, a friend of Sarah deVries, who disappeared in 1998. The charge against Pickton in her death was also stayed.

"There's just so many areas that the police failed -- both the RCMP and the Vancouver police. It was just a total dismal failure on their part to investigate this case thoroughly," Leng said.

"The Vancouver police report cannot be the last word for these families. They won't accept that."

The stepmother of Pickton victim Marnie Frey, who went missing in 1997, is also calling for an inquiry.

"What's there to hide? The damage is done," Lynn Frey said.

"Because they were drug-addicted prostitutes, they were throwaways...nobody gave a damn, and now they're apologizing? It doesn't cut it for me."

With a report from CTV British Columbia's Maria Weisgarber

Pickton Told Police He Had 'One More Planned'

By: Sunny Dhillon, The Canadian Press

Robert Pickton played a cat-and-mouse game with police interrogators, telling them that he had "one more planned," and suggesting he might be willing to tell them more.

But an expert on serial killers cautioned against putting too much faith in anything Pickton might have promised, saying psychopaths routinely lie when it suits them. {True, so very true.}

The video of Pickton's 11-hour interrogation by police was made public Monday and in it, he comes tantalizingly close to a full confession. {So did my guy --- way back there in 1993 --- back when he cried and begged me, "If the cops ever question me about any of these dead women, couldn't I tell them I was with you?" --- any cops out there remember getting this information from me? Not one thing was done then or since. Not one damned thing.}

"I had one more planned, but that was, that was the end of it. That was the last I was gonna shut it down, that's why I was just sloppy. Just the last one," Pickton told Staff Sgt. Don Adam.

Adam replied: "You were going to do one more."

Pickton continued: "That was the end of it. That's why I got sloppy because the other thing never got that far." {He didn't just 'get sloppy.' From what I've read about him he was always sloppy -- always left ample evidence of his crimes. I'd venture to guess he was a disorganized personality, therefore a disorganized serial killer, and should have been among the easiest to catch. My guy is an organized personality, and therefore an organized serial killer .... but, he's also made his share of mistakes, and should have been caught [especially with my assistance] many years ago.}

Pickton never elaborated on what the "other thing" was.

In a couple of places during the interview, Pickton suggested he might be willing to tell police more if he had a chance first to have a private conversation with a woman friend police have suggested may have been involved. {Oh boy am I leery of this one! Why do police ALWAYS 'suspect' a woman is involved? If they 'suspect' such a thing, then get the evidence against both of them and indite them --- just like I told the prosecuting attorney to do back in 2000. He wouldn't listen then either ..... well, the woman 'involved' wasn't me, so therefore, he can just rape as many 12 year old girls as he wants to. Yep, that's the way it is. If they can't incriminate me, then they just won't go after him. Okay, see who comes out smelling like a rose this time boys. Documentation; witnesses; that's what counts, and I got it all!}

Pickton also appeared to suggest he'd be more co-operative if police stopped digging up his family's property.

"I'll finally admit to everything if you pull the fences down."

But later, Pickton invited the police to dig up as much as they wanted.

In the end, the video was one of the most incriminating pieces of evidence jurors saw, but it also leaves many questions.

Pickton made reference to the possibility of another body -- a man's. He referred to himself as the "head honcho," but if he were leading a group, he offered no indication of who his followers might be.

Harold Schechter, an English literature professor at Queens College of the City University of New York, has written several books on serial killers, including "The Serial Killer Files: The Who, What, Where, How, and Why of the World's Most Terrifying Murderers." {It took me several years to pull the pieces together, but I can finally answer those questions about my guy too!}

He said if Pickton really did kill 49 women, as he claimed to the undercover cell plant, that would "definitely rank him on the high end in terms of body counts of North American serial killers." {Can't hold a candle to my guy! His name will some day be in the Guinness book of world records -- which is exactly where he wants to be!}

Pickton told a CTV interviewer last week that he was not responsible for the killings, but Schechter said it's not uncommon for serial killers to lie and create convincing stories about blaming someone else. {And to think these idiots fell for it here! Even when my guy ended up in jail in 1994, I got the blame for it! I hadn't been near the man for more than 6 weeks, but it was my fault!}

"You're dealing obviously with incredibly slippery personalities. Extreme psychopaths, like Pickton, they'll say whatever suits them at the moment. They're extremely convincing liars, which is one of the reasons they're able to get away with their atrocities." {Apparently so .... even a former sheriff fell for my guy, saying I was lying on a poor innocent man! Hope the creep lives long enough to see just who was lying.}

The interrogation video was supposed to have been released Friday, the same day as the release of a video of Pickton in conversation with an undercover officer placed in his cell. Technical issues delayed its release to Monday.

Release of the key pieces of evidence was made possible after the Supreme Court of Canada upheld the six second-degree murder convictions against Pickton, prompting the Crown to drop the remaining 20 murder charges against him.

Schechter said while Pickton's unkempt and stilted speech patterns defy the stereotype of celebrity serial killers as smooth and good-looking, that stereotype is a myth.

"The notion of serial killers as these handsome, super-intelligent Jekyll and Hyde types is pretty much a function of Hollywood fantasy," he said.

"Most of them have above-average intelligence. ... A lot of them are nothing to look at. A lot of them are actively repulsive-looking." {True.}

Calls for a public inquiry have been mounting in the last two weeks. The Vancouver Police Department has said it will soon issue a detailed report of its investigation into the case and the RCMP has also said it has done a similar report.

Politicians, though, have been non-committal about an inquiry.

Last week, Premier Gordon Campbell said inquiries aren't always the best way to get answers and on Monday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said his cabinet hasn't been considering an inquiry, but may.

"Obviously, we'll want to look at what we need to do to prevent this kind of thing or detect it much earlier in the future, because we obviously don't want to see a repetition of any of these horrific events," the prime minister said.

The B.C. Coroners Service said Monday it has contacted family members of the six women Pickton was convicted of killing to discuss the return of their remains.

The coroner's service is also reviewing applications from relatives of the 20 women Pickton was charged with killing but never stood trial for.

Jeff Dolan, a coroner's service spokesman, said the agency can give the remains back to loved ones now that Pickton's legal odyssey has come to an end.

He said the remains range from partial body parts to traces of DNA.

"Death certificates were issued for the six following the conclusion of that trial and now that the appeals process is complete, the coroner will be returning the remains to those families," Dolan said, though he couldn't say exactly when they'll be returned.

"The applications (for the remaining 20) are all being reviewed. The chief coroner is essentially reviewing all of these cases as missing and presumed dead cases."

He said there is a significant amount of information to review before death certificates for the 20 can be issued.

The stepmother of one of the 20 women says she won't be holding a memorial for her stepdaughter.

Marilyn Kraft says seeing a picture of the freezer that Cindy Feliks' DNA was traced to was enough.

Feliks, a vibrant, loving woman, was last seen in December 1997.

Kraft was visited by police officers Sunday, some of whom cried while discussing the case.

"It has been very emotional for all of us and even the police who have had to live with this for years," Kraft said. "One of them broke down crying. I know they cared about what happened." {Many individual police officers that I have spoken with have cared a lot about my cases too. The problem seems to come from 'higher up' the chain of command .... sheriff's; prosecuting attorney's, etc.}

Tapes Offer A Glimpse Into The Mind Of A Killer

By: CTV.ca News Staff

While the motives behind Robert Pickton's grisly crimes remain incomprehensible, freshly released police recordings may give the public some insight into the mind of Canada's worst-ever serial killer.

Two sets of recordings were unsealed on Friday, the most disturbing of which is video of a 2002 jail cell conversation Pickton had with his cellmate, who is actually an undercover agent.

In the conversation, shocking details emerge: Pickton talks about killing 49 women and says he would kill more, given the chance.

"I was gonna do one more, make it an even 50," Pickton tells the undercover officer. "Make it the big five-zero. (Expletive) half a hundred."

The tape also shows seemingly mundane details such as Pickton eating chili and passing a cup of coffee to his cellmate.

A separate audio tape was also released Friday: a police interrogation the day after Pickton was arrested. Earlier on Friday, the transcripts were made available.

The evidence was released after a court-ordered publication ban was lifted this week after Pickton's chances of appealing his case were dashed by the Supreme Court.

Pickton is serving a life sentence on six counts of second-degree murder. Given the Supreme Court's decision, the Crown stayed 20 additional murder charges as Pickton's sentence is already the longest under Canadian law.

At one point during the 11-hour police interrogation that took place in a small room in the Surrey, B.C. detachment of the RCMP, then-Sgt. Bill Fordy suggests Pickton's arrest had made him a national celebrity.

"You're bigger than the Pope, you're bigger than Princess Diana, you're just like f——-' (Osama) bin Laden. You know you're on the front page of every paper in the country today. Every one."

"In the paper?" Pickton asked.

"Everybody knows who you are right now," Fordy replied.

"In the paper today? They put me in the paper?" Pickton asked again, clearly unable to hide his growing excitement.

There is no question of the public's interest in Pickton's case, but the head of the B.C. Civil Liberties Union is reluctant to encourage people to view the tapes.

"I think it would be really unfortunate if we essentially lionized Robert Pickton and created a celebrity of him by focusing on the salacious details," David Eby told CTV News Channel.

Reporting from Vancouver, CTV's Janet Dirks says the tapes nevertheless provide insight into Pickton's character.

"At first, Pickton appears as a naive guy who doesn't seem to understand anything," Dirks said. {"Just a dumb ol' crane operator," .... yeah, right.}

"But as the hours go by and they bring in a senior officer you see a different side of him. You see him put his feet up, he's cocky, he's sort of playing with their minds." {Big tough woman .... you and your German Shepherd Dog, you think you're a big tough woman .... big tough cop. I remember it all so well .... so very well.}

In the jail cell recording, Pickton later told the undercover officer that he was then going to kill another 25 women.

Although Pickton was portrayed by his defense as dimwitted, the former pig farmer appears to clearly understand his situation.

"They're going to nail me to the cross," he says more than once.

However, if Pickton initially claimed some responsibility for his murders, he now appears to hold the justice system in contempt.

This week, CTV's Jon Woodward spoke to Pickton by phone, and the former pig farmer complained that the justice system had failed him.

The killer said he resents his lawyers because they did not let him testify in his own defense, and he also insinuated that others may have taken part in his grisly crimes.

Evidence released after conviction upheld

The tapes' release comes after a longstanding publication ban was lifted after the Supreme Court of Canada upheld Pickton's conviction.

Pickton was first charged with murder in 2002 after police launched an exhaustive search of his pig farm in Port Coquitlam, B.C., about 30 kilometres east of Vancouver.

The three-year investigation ultimately uncovered the dismembered bodies, bones and DNA of more than two dozen women from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside.

Last week, Vancouver Police Deputy Chief Doug LePard publicly apologized for his department's failure to catch Pickton sooner.

"When faced with the worst, we should have been better," he said, acknowledging that there were indications a serial killer was at work.

Among the documents revealed to the public this week was the testimony of a woman who said Pickton took her to his farm in 1997, put her in handcuffs and tried to kill her. The two struggled in a knife fight that ended with both of them in hospital.

Pickton was charged with attempted murder, but the charges were stayed in 1998. That same year, a special team formed to review missing women files rejected the possibility of a serial killer hunting women in downtown Vancouver.

In 2001, the RCMP and the Vancouver police formed a joint task force to step up their investigation.

Pickton was arrested in February the following year. All the murders for which he was convicted occurred after the 1997 attack.

This week's revelations have stirred renewed calls for a public inquiry into the Pickton investigation. B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell said Thursday his cabinet would decide on the matter in the coming weeks.

Pickton is currently serving a life sentence for six counts of second-degree murder. With no chance of parole for 25 years, he is unlikely to ever be released.

Internal Police Strife Delayed Pickton Arrest,

Former Officer Says

BY: Rod Mickleburgh // Vancouver — Globe and Mail

The investigation that finally led to the conviction of Robert Pickton was seriously hampered in its early days by internal animosity toward a Vancouver police officer who believed a serial killer was behind the disappearances of so many women, according to a 31-year veteran of the force. {I've seen this very thing, time and again. I've seen cops pulled off the case because they believed I was right about a serial killer, and who that serial killer was. Yes, John Lyerly, I remember you, and I thank you for your honestly.}

Doug Mackay-Dunn, now retired, said he remains haunted by the case and how lives might have been saved if he had pushed harder for the conclusions of Kim Rossmo – a specialist in geographic profiling – to be taken seriously. {No, it wouldn't have mattered. All it might have done was cost him his job. I've seen that too.}

“I think about that all the time. I still feel guilty about it,” Mr. MacKay-Dunn said Monday as he and Mr. Rossmo joined in the call for a public inquiry into police handling of the missing women’s file. “But we were all walking on eggshells because of the animosity [felt by some senior officers] towards Kim Rossmo. They simply did not want to validate his work.” {Think how they must feel about 'validating my work' .... I'm not even 'one of them!'}

He recounted a meeting where Mr. Rossmo presented his findings to a chief homicide inspector at the time. {I presented my finding to Detective John Winstanley, who in turn thought they were worthy of investigation ..... but, he wasn't the sheriff .... and so, down I went instead of a serial killer.}

“The next thing I hear is yelling and screaming. He [the inspector] says that this is ridiculous. ‘No bodies, no case … you look after your division, I’ll look after mine.’ Yada, yada, yada. It was a bit of a shock. Rossmo looked absolutely ashen when he came out of there.”

Mr. Rossmo was resented for his abrupt promotion from constable to detective inspector for his pioneering work in the then-new police field of geographic profiling, Mr. MacKay-Dunn said.

A staff sergeant in the Downtown Eastside in the late 1990s, Mr. MacKay-Dunn had called on Mr. Rossmo to take a look at the two dozen or so prostitutes that had gone missing at that point from the grim, drug-ravaged area.

After a week of research and number crunching, Mr. Rossmo concluded that the disappearances were almost certainly the work of a serial killer. That ran counter to the official police line that there was no evidence of a mass murderer at work, and that the women had likely gone elsewhere. {First of all, a 'mass murderer' is NOT the same thing as a serial killer. Their own stupidity was evident in this statement. A serial killer almost always takes one victim at a time .... even in the Jennifer Short case, where both her parents were shot in their own home, Jennifer went with the killer. He took one victim. Granted, there were three in all, but he went in after Jennifer, and he knew exactly what he was doing."

“But why was it happening then, and not before. The number of missing women had begun to spike,” said Mr. Rossmo in a phone interview from Texas State University, where he now heads the Centre for Geospatial Intelligence and Investigation. {My cases began to 'spike' in 1995, when my suspect got a 'traveling job' that takes him into several other states. The cases began to mount in those states as opposed to just locally, as they had been in previous years. Coincidence, I suppose.}

“Why was it happening in Vancouver, and nowhere else? Why was it happening to women, and not to men? And why are we not finding bodies? The only explanation that I thought met those criteria was a serial killer.” {I agree. It's been the same pattern with my cases, and in many of those cases the women remain missing.}

Mr. Rossmo said he outlined his conclusions in several police reports, but they were not taken up by high-ranking officers overseeing the investigation.

“They thought I could have no expertise, because, in their minds, I was not a real inspector,” he said. {He should try being a woman with no training, no job, no expertise, and only a suspicion that she is an intended victim, to work with! Try that on for size, and see if he'd come out as knowledgeable [and as healthy] as I have!! }

Mr. MacKay-Dunn said an earlier conclusion that a serial killer was on the loose could have led police fairly quickly to Robert Pickton, since as recently as 1997 the suburban pig farmer had been arrested on a charge of attempted murder of a prostitute.

But the Crown stayed the charge, and blood-soaked clothing with Mr. Pickton’s DNA on it lay in an RCMP evidence locker, unknown to investigators with the missing women’s task force.

“Pickton would have been in jail, and all those women would have been saved,” Mr. MacKay-Dunn said.

Mr. Pickton was arrested and charged in 2002. He was eventually convicted of murdering six prostitutes, charges were stayed in 20 other murder cases, and he had earlier boasted of killing 49 women to an undercover police plant in his jail cell.

Both Mr. MacKay-Dunn and Mr. Rossmo said there should be a public inquiry into the police investigation. {in my opinion, there should be some consequences for this 'lack of action.' Of course, I'm not real familiar with Canada's laws and such, but here in the states, I believe heads should roll -- of course I've thought that throughout the Ted Bundy cases; the John Wayne Gacey cases; the Gary Ridgeway cases; etc, etc. But so far, there's never been any consequences for anything. Wonder if that's why they just keep repeating their 'mistakes?'}

“I know a lot of people are tired of this, and it would cost a lot of money,” Mr. Rossmo said. “But until we can say positively that this is not going to happen again, then there should be one.”

Prime Minister Stephen Harper, meanwhile, said he has been paying close attention to the Pickton case, including the call for a public inquiry.

“We’ll want to look at what we need to do to prevent this kind of thing, or detect it much earlier in the future, because we obviously don’t want to see a repetition of these horrific events,” he told reporters while at an unrelated event in Vancouver.

At the same event, Premier Gordon Campbell said the province will decide whether an inquiry is warranted, once internal reports on the case by the RCMP and Vancouver Police Department have been reviewed.

“Our hearts go out to the families of all the missing women,” Mr. Campbell said. “I think it’s really critically important we learn as much as we can.”

Globe Editorial

Robert Pickton Was A Monster We Allowed To Go Free

Robert Pickton was within the law's grasp in 1997, but the legal system let him slip away. That awful truth – disclosed with the lifting of a publication ban in Mr. Pickton's case and the staying of charges in 20 other murders he is alleged to have committed – illustrates the depth of the injustice visited on Mr. Pickton's victims since the first woman went missing.

Newly released testimony reveals that one woman who survived her encounter with Mr. Pickton helped bring him to the authorities. Lured to his compound in March, 1997, she was attacked by Mr. Pickton, but stabbed him in self-defense, escaped and survived, despite losing almost three litres of blood. She ended up in Port Moody's Eagle Ridge Hospital, as did Mr. Pickton. Police were called and charges of attempted murder laid, yet, incredibly, prosecutors chose not to try Mr. Pickton: the woman was not “credible” and her testimony would not hold up in court, they apparently believed.

This judgement itself is deeply disturbing. And even in the absence of a credible witness, there was telling physical evidence: a handcuff, on the woman; a handcuff key that fit, on Mr. Pickton's person. Yet still Mr. Pickton went unpunished.{Talk about a blatant miscarriage of justice! As long as he's attacking people who are not 'credible' witnesses, then it's okay!! Wow. Is that why they have tried so hard to 'discredit' me? Owwww, shucks guys. You can't discredit me. I'm as solid as the rock of Gibraltar .... and just about as hard headed..... and psychic to boot!}

By this point, several Vancouver women with similar backgrounds as prostitutes and drug users had already gone missing under similar circumstances. It's horrible to think that this serial killer's monstrous rampage could have been stopped then and there. But it wasn't.

Police have often been blamed for the delay in apprehending Mr. Pickton, and such criticisms have often been justified. But this was not a police choice; any decision not to prosecute ultimately lies with the Crown. And even when Mr. Pickton went to trial for other killings, this woman's testimony was still excluded.

Alleging systematic bias in the justice system should only be done with the most extreme care. But so much about the Pickton case – the delayed investigation;, the failure to connect the cases of the missing women; the most recent revelations – makes any other conclusion difficult to draw. The criminal justice system is not just for those with resources and status – it is for women with addiction problems, for aboriginals who fall into prostitution. { And in this country, it is supposed to be for everyone .... not just some damned man who is a disgrace to the family that has enough money so that authorities don't want to bring them 'shame.' He's their shame. He's their disgrace. They created him. Why should they be protected and allowed to go to their graves without ever having to face his victims' families? And here in my world, they haven't even had to 'connect the cases,' because even that has been done for them. It's all told on this web site, time and time again, it's all been told. Robert Pickton might be Canada's biggest nightmare --- but ours still looms ahead. And it will come, just as surely as Canada's finally arrived, so shall ours. }

Mr. Pickton sits in prison, convicted on six-counts of second-degree murder, likely never to be released. He murdered or was alleged to have murdered 21 more women after that night in March, 1997. His victims were all apparently considered nobodies, and so they were treated like nobodies. {My suspects victims have all been treated like nobodies too, but he made a mistake, and so have the authorities. All his 'victims' and his 'intended victims' are not dead. There is one who really doesn't give a tee diddly damned who considers her a nobody ..... she really doesn't care because she has enough self esteem; self respect and determination to do the work and keep right on telling the world .... and she will.}

A Comment I felt was worthy of re-print:

Pester: "On Valentine's Day 1992 I took part in an anti police protest on Skid Row in Vancouver. We were demanding a police investigation into the disappearance of 39 native women. These women missed court dates, doctors' appointments, loved ones' birthdays. They didn't pick up their meds or their welfare cheques. They were murdered. They ended up in a wood chipper on a pig farm. One brave and innovative officer developed geographical profiling and claimed, like everyone on Skid Row, that there was a serial killer at work. He was fired. He lost his case for wrongful dismissal. Ten years after that protest the Vancouver Police Department and six other Lower Mainland police departments stated the obvious: there was a serial killer at work.

Melanie Carpenter was a pretty blonde twenty three year old murder victim. It took minutes, not decades, to solve her murder. Her funeral was televised and on the radio. She became famous while 39 other women were dismissed. North American police have never, will never, catch a serial killer until they hire educated people. Ask Sir Arthur Conan Doyle."

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